that, it's kind of striking, you read 24 hours after this that a very similar incident happened in china. a man in an elementary school with a knife, not an assault weapon, almost two dozen kids injured but not killed. >> in 1996 a man went into a gym class in scotland, killed 16 5-year-olds and 6-year-olds and the teacher. a few years ago in norway, a young, deranged, young man killed, what, 69 people on an island, mostly teenagers. connecticut has among the toughest gun laws in this country. didn't help. scotland and norway have very tough gun laws, didn't help. >> didn't stop but it does lessen the occasion of violence, doesn't it? >> since columbine there have been 181 of these school shootings. >> remember, we did have a ban on assault weapons. when we put the ban in place these incidents didn't decline in a measurable way. and when we took them off they didn't increase in a measurable way. >> there were five guns in the house. the shooter chose two semiautomatic pistols and one semiautomatic rifle. he did not choose the two deer hunting rifles. it seems to me that the congresswoman